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Science and Archaeology Experts Discuss Humankind's Ancestral Journey
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All people can trace their roots to the savanna of East Africa, home of one of the first members of the human species Homo habilis.
This Monday, in the series premiere of The Great Human Race, experimental archaeologist Bill Schindler and survival instructor Cat Bigney attempt to face what early humans did, as they work together to survive in the wild savanna just as primitive people did 2.6 million years ago without any weapons or fire.
As we get ready to introduce this exciting new series, we've invited prominent voices in the fields of archaeology, experimental archaeology, science and primitive technology to weigh in on the following questions:
Do you think thatexperts today can accurately replicate the challenges that Homo habilis faced thousands of years ago? And do you think that experts today could survive and thriveasHomo habilis did?
Paleoanthropologist Dr. Briana Pobiner of Smithsonian's Human Origins Program reflects on historical records in her response. "Compared to us modern humans, Homo habilis had a different body size and shape: They were from about 3 feet 4 inches to 4 feet 5 inches and weighed on average 70 pounds, with both absolutely and relatively longer arms and a lower face that jutted out with larger teeth. It also had a much smaller brain size than modern humans, made very basic stone tools and there is no evidence they had the capacity for language," Pobiner says. She continues, "They faced the same kind of survival challenges like procuring food and water and avoiding predation that any other animal faces, which can be van cleef necklace replica alhambra replicated on a basic level. But modern humans have much more sophisticated communication, cognitive abilities, manual dexterity, and experience with a huge range of knowledge and familiarity with technology far beyond what Homo habilis ever experienced. And while the ecosystems during the time of Homo habilis roamed Africa (which is where their fossils have been found) may have been roughly similar to today in terms of vegetation, there was an amazing array of different predators like giant saber toothed cats and prey animals. So while I'm skeptical that one could accurately play Homo habilis in the modern world, I can see how it would be entertaining to try."
ScienceBlogs' Greg Laden of Greg Laden's Blog answers the question at hand quite simply: "No, this is too hard." He continues, "But we can try, and in so doing we can develop some interesting thinking about early human evolution." Laden whips out some Archaeology 101, noting, "Homo habilis was not, of course, a human, but we assume that this early hominin had some incipient human traits, further developed with early Homo erectus/ergaster. The two rules of being a human hunter gatherer refer to important aspects of living off the land that my research indicates apply to modern humans living without agriculture or animal husbandry as a source of food. I don't know if these rules applied to earlier hominins or not van cleef flower replica necklace that is the $64,000 question."
Dr. Javier Baena Preysler, professor of prehistory and director of the Laboratory of Experimental Archeology at UAM LAEX, writes at Paleoaprende that he can see how, through the use of experimental archaeology, we could, with much care, replicate the challenges Homo habilis faced. Preysler explains, "Homo habilis and some other ancestors built up their own culture by the experience acquired with time and mainly under the natural selection laws (if we eat something poisonous, we will die). But our society has built a new culture based on 'cultural experiences' that put us away from nature." On the other hand, he does not believe humans today could survive as Homo habilis did. Preysler explains, "We are not the same species. In present day African savanna regions, the conditions should be similar to the savannas that provided subsistence for Homo habilis." She answers the second question noting, "Survival skills previously acquired by experts Schindler and Bigney ensure their survival in a savanna environment but they lack the environmental knowledge that was probably shared among Homo habilis by members of the band with some previous knowledge of the resources. Schindler and Bigney already have the ability to develop and maintain the efficiency of their tools. This evolution was not a linear one moving toward what we are now. It is not even a family tree, but a series of lines of development, which cross each other, split and merge. A high number of different kinds of humans lived simultaneously." Paardekooper continues, "Homo habilis was a very early human being, without weapons or fire. Who knows what was in their mind? We cannot imagine how different life was for them compared to ours not only regarding techniques used, but also in cooperation and communication. Their environment was the African savannah, their tools mainly rocks and perishable materials, their main challenge: survival. Imagine that it was the survival of the fittest not of the smartest. It would be unfair to call them primitive in a derogatory way: For them it would be as hard to survive in our world as for us in theirs. The ones who could adapt best as well as the luckiest would survive. Their main quality was in their ability to cooperate with each other, to form social networks. Ninety nine percent of our past is Stone Age, so just imagine the impact of that on who we are and what we do."
Professor Aidan O'Sullivan of the University College Dublin School of Archaeology and director of the UCD Centre for Experimental Archaeology and Material Culture refers to experimental archaeologist Bill Schindler and survival instructor Cat Bigney's task at hand in the series. "Cat and Bill offer us here some sense of what Homo habilis' life experience was like, but of course we are totally unlike them. They were amongst the first hominids to use stone chopper tools, but they didn't hunt or use fire, and their means of communication was rudimentary at best, so Cat and Bill despite being the experts that they are are almost at a loss in that world," O'Sullivan says. He continues, "What Homo habilis had of course was a much more embedded sense of their environment, the plants and insects that they could source and eat, the occasional sources of protein, fats and marrow through eating carrion, and the vital sources of water and finally the places of shelter and safety. What this episode also very effectively communicates is the foreboding and constant sense of vulnerability and fright, the basic hardness of life, that Homo habilis endured as well as their hard learned knowledge of the dangers that literally lay in the long grass keep an eye out for the big cat lolling in the sun!"
Professional archaeologist and one of the founders of the Society of Primitive TechnologyJack Cresson writes, "We can only replicate what is known, from the body of science and research available. Yes certain levels of accuracy can be mastered and presented regarding "technology" and the inferred range of natural materials and processes, as well as economies and the physical nature of bipeds. Cresson continues, "However, many many unknowns will always have to be accessed and accounted for".
Dr. Linda Hurcombe of University of Exeter's Department of Archaeology, College of Humanities, emphasizes, "To tackle some of these issues in more detail we have to think through a couple of key aspects. Homo habilis was physically different from us. This species still had toes and hands better adapted to climbing than ours and getting off the ground more easily is a safety issue when people are in environments where there are large predators. The story of human evolution is above all that of a social journey." Hurcombe continues, "Putting two people in a savannah environment disadvantages them as there are only two, but on the other hand they are fit and active without children and infants. The physical differences come into this again in that Homo habilis infants would most likely be able to cling onto their mothers, but for most modern humans climbing while holding a baby is a challenge of a different order. This kind of programme can make people academics and public alike think through some of the challenges faced by our ancestors."
Thank you to all our experts for sharing their uniquely important perspectives on this intriguing topic. Tune in to The Great Human Race this coming Monday, Feb. 1, at 10/9c on National Geographic Channel.
I like to know if Kat and Bill got sick? They ate raw meat that had flies on it and drank stagnant water! It disappointing that we don learn what effect those choices made on their bodies.
They constantly spoke about having to do everything Homo habilis did, but there they are wearing sandals with rubber soles!! Seems inconsistent with the whole premise of the show, especially when every other sentence out of their mouths is doing this just like Homo habilis would have done. to Kat though. She was strong and determined! There are not enough women being portrayed in this light on tv.
I loved the show. Was fascinated by the knowledge and history. However, i was COMPLETELY ANNOYED by the inaccuracy of the which did not show the black skin of our true ancestors from the continent of Africa. Come on! Let do it correctly. Why the deception? When you do things correctly, you contribute to the proper balance of truth in the world which is obviously askewed with the rampant racism we see imitation van cleef & arpels alhambra necklace across the globe. GET IT RIGHT, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC. STOP BEING A TOOL AND BE COURAGEOUS LIKE YOUR TRUE ANCESTORS.
Are you serious people? The most intelligent and thought provoking comment you can provide is about their grammar? I would like to see you go out and take oon this challenge and then see how much you care about proper grammar bit petty and juvenile don you think? Bill and Kat you are an amazing team!! Finally a show without ridiculous arguments. They were a team at all times and had their eye on the end goal at all times! Kat you are an inspiration, I would love to learn primitive survival from you! Keep up the great work!
I am an archeologist. I have studied every so called fact this show has told us, (spoiler alert) 90% of the facts they say or dhow is incorrect. Honestly I had high hopes for this show but after episode 1 it became more of an annoyance than a pleasure to watch. number one the dress code,( sorry if you cant show our ancient predecessors as naked as they were) 2 the shoes/sandals whats withe the rubber souls, 3 pleistecene landscapes were different than ours look it up no dessert in thd middle east that was just for viewer fun. 4 hunting technology was off by thousands of years. 5 agri/ domestic was off dogs came first. look it up bill and cat not havving domestic dogs is bs . 6 going to america the coast line was different and boats were skin and wood frame, like bull boats. ps the first accepted and documented society in north america was at monte verde not washington(look it up)! stop making our hob harder as archeaologits and tell the truth about how we developed, when and what we domesticated and when/how we got to america(20 kyrs ago) austrailia(40k yrs ago) i watch this show now only to enrage my fury about how even so called experts would allow this bs to be aired to the next generation. ps i teach them ( the next generation) in 7 grade history.
The first thing that strikes me as the beautifully constructed Cat appears is that she wears a bra and underpantsthe skins they wear so well tanned. in the next installment of the clothes are sewn so fine, if the food time is there suddenly a modern goat quietly remain until he is picked to be a distance of a few meters, hey, wonderfully fresh, a dilapidated carcass of a yak with two wolves who are on stand to pee, clearly slaughtered by the film crew, etc. Also the constantly repeated then we are in big trouble! the viewer immediately believe.
(Photo Credit: NG Studios/ Tahria Sheather)
All people can trace their roots to the savanna of East Africa, home of one of the first members of the human species Homo habilis.
This Monday, in the series premiere of The Great Human Race, experimental archaeologist Bill Schindler and survival instructor Cat Bigney attempt to face what early humans did, as they work together to survive in the wild savanna just as primitive people did 2.6 million years ago without any weapons or fire.
As we get ready to introduce this exciting new series, we've invited prominent voices in the fields of archaeology, experimental archaeology, science and primitive technology to weigh in on the following questions:
Do you think thatexperts today can accurately replicate the challenges that Homo habilis faced thousands of years ago? And do you think that experts today could survive and thriveasHomo habilis did?
Paleoanthropologist Dr. Briana Pobiner of Smithsonian's Human Origins Program reflects on historical records in her response. "Compared to us modern humans, Homo habilis had a different body size and shape: They were from about 3 feet 4 inches to 4 feet 5 inches and weighed on average 70 pounds, with both absolutely and relatively longer arms and a lower face that jutted out with larger teeth. It also had a much smaller brain size than modern humans, made very basic stone tools and there is no evidence they had the capacity for language," Pobiner says. She continues, "They faced the same kind of survival challenges like procuring food and water and avoiding predation that any other animal faces, which can be van cleef necklace replica alhambra replicated on a basic level. But modern humans have much more sophisticated communication, cognitive abilities, manual dexterity, and experience with a huge range of knowledge and familiarity with technology far beyond what Homo habilis ever experienced. And while the ecosystems during the time of Homo habilis roamed Africa (which is where their fossils have been found) may have been roughly similar to today in terms of vegetation, there was an amazing array of different predators like giant saber toothed cats and prey animals. So while I'm skeptical that one could accurately play Homo habilis in the modern world, I can see how it would be entertaining to try."
ScienceBlogs' Greg Laden of Greg Laden's Blog answers the question at hand quite simply: "No, this is too hard." He continues, "But we can try, and in so doing we can develop some interesting thinking about early human evolution." Laden whips out some Archaeology 101, noting, "Homo habilis was not, of course, a human, but we assume that this early hominin had some incipient human traits, further developed with early Homo erectus/ergaster. The two rules of being a human hunter gatherer refer to important aspects of living off the land that my research indicates apply to modern humans living without agriculture or animal husbandry as a source of food. I don't know if these rules applied to earlier hominins or not van cleef flower replica necklace that is the $64,000 question."
Dr. Javier Baena Preysler, professor of prehistory and director of the Laboratory of Experimental Archeology at UAM LAEX, writes at Paleoaprende that he can see how, through the use of experimental archaeology, we could, with much care, replicate the challenges Homo habilis faced. Preysler explains, "Homo habilis and some other ancestors built up their own culture by the experience acquired with time and mainly under the natural selection laws (if we eat something poisonous, we will die). But our society has built a new culture based on 'cultural experiences' that put us away from nature." On the other hand, he does not believe humans today could survive as Homo habilis did. Preysler explains, "We are not the same species. In present day African savanna regions, the conditions should be similar to the savannas that provided subsistence for Homo habilis." She answers the second question noting, "Survival skills previously acquired by experts Schindler and Bigney ensure their survival in a savanna environment but they lack the environmental knowledge that was probably shared among Homo habilis by members of the band with some previous knowledge of the resources. Schindler and Bigney already have the ability to develop and maintain the efficiency of their tools. This evolution was not a linear one moving toward what we are now. It is not even a family tree, but a series of lines of development, which cross each other, split and merge. A high number of different kinds of humans lived simultaneously." Paardekooper continues, "Homo habilis was a very early human being, without weapons or fire. Who knows what was in their mind? We cannot imagine how different life was for them compared to ours not only regarding techniques used, but also in cooperation and communication. Their environment was the African savannah, their tools mainly rocks and perishable materials, their main challenge: survival. Imagine that it was the survival of the fittest not of the smartest. It would be unfair to call them primitive in a derogatory way: For them it would be as hard to survive in our world as for us in theirs. The ones who could adapt best as well as the luckiest would survive. Their main quality was in their ability to cooperate with each other, to form social networks. Ninety nine percent of our past is Stone Age, so just imagine the impact of that on who we are and what we do."
Professor Aidan O'Sullivan of the University College Dublin School of Archaeology and director of the UCD Centre for Experimental Archaeology and Material Culture refers to experimental archaeologist Bill Schindler and survival instructor Cat Bigney's task at hand in the series. "Cat and Bill offer us here some sense of what Homo habilis' life experience was like, but of course we are totally unlike them. They were amongst the first hominids to use stone chopper tools, but they didn't hunt or use fire, and their means of communication was rudimentary at best, so Cat and Bill despite being the experts that they are are almost at a loss in that world," O'Sullivan says. He continues, "What Homo habilis had of course was a much more embedded sense of their environment, the plants and insects that they could source and eat, the occasional sources of protein, fats and marrow through eating carrion, and the vital sources of water and finally the places of shelter and safety. What this episode also very effectively communicates is the foreboding and constant sense of vulnerability and fright, the basic hardness of life, that Homo habilis endured as well as their hard learned knowledge of the dangers that literally lay in the long grass keep an eye out for the big cat lolling in the sun!"
Professional archaeologist and one of the founders of the Society of Primitive TechnologyJack Cresson writes, "We can only replicate what is known, from the body of science and research available. Yes certain levels of accuracy can be mastered and presented regarding "technology" and the inferred range of natural materials and processes, as well as economies and the physical nature of bipeds. Cresson continues, "However, many many unknowns will always have to be accessed and accounted for".
Dr. Linda Hurcombe of University of Exeter's Department of Archaeology, College of Humanities, emphasizes, "To tackle some of these issues in more detail we have to think through a couple of key aspects. Homo habilis was physically different from us. This species still had toes and hands better adapted to climbing than ours and getting off the ground more easily is a safety issue when people are in environments where there are large predators. The story of human evolution is above all that of a social journey." Hurcombe continues, "Putting two people in a savannah environment disadvantages them as there are only two, but on the other hand they are fit and active without children and infants. The physical differences come into this again in that Homo habilis infants would most likely be able to cling onto their mothers, but for most modern humans climbing while holding a baby is a challenge of a different order. This kind of programme can make people academics and public alike think through some of the challenges faced by our ancestors."
Thank you to all our experts for sharing their uniquely important perspectives on this intriguing topic. Tune in to The Great Human Race this coming Monday, Feb. 1, at 10/9c on National Geographic Channel.
I like to know if Kat and Bill got sick? They ate raw meat that had flies on it and drank stagnant water! It disappointing that we don learn what effect those choices made on their bodies.
They constantly spoke about having to do everything Homo habilis did, but there they are wearing sandals with rubber soles!! Seems inconsistent with the whole premise of the show, especially when every other sentence out of their mouths is doing this just like Homo habilis would have done. to Kat though. She was strong and determined! There are not enough women being portrayed in this light on tv.
I loved the show. Was fascinated by the knowledge and history. However, i was COMPLETELY ANNOYED by the inaccuracy of the which did not show the black skin of our true ancestors from the continent of Africa. Come on! Let do it correctly. Why the deception? When you do things correctly, you contribute to the proper balance of truth in the world which is obviously askewed with the rampant racism we see imitation van cleef & arpels alhambra necklace across the globe. GET IT RIGHT, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC. STOP BEING A TOOL AND BE COURAGEOUS LIKE YOUR TRUE ANCESTORS.
Are you serious people? The most intelligent and thought provoking comment you can provide is about their grammar? I would like to see you go out and take oon this challenge and then see how much you care about proper grammar bit petty and juvenile don you think? Bill and Kat you are an amazing team!! Finally a show without ridiculous arguments. They were a team at all times and had their eye on the end goal at all times! Kat you are an inspiration, I would love to learn primitive survival from you! Keep up the great work!
I am an archeologist. I have studied every so called fact this show has told us, (spoiler alert) 90% of the facts they say or dhow is incorrect. Honestly I had high hopes for this show but after episode 1 it became more of an annoyance than a pleasure to watch. number one the dress code,( sorry if you cant show our ancient predecessors as naked as they were) 2 the shoes/sandals whats withe the rubber souls, 3 pleistecene landscapes were different than ours look it up no dessert in thd middle east that was just for viewer fun. 4 hunting technology was off by thousands of years. 5 agri/ domestic was off dogs came first. look it up bill and cat not havving domestic dogs is bs . 6 going to america the coast line was different and boats were skin and wood frame, like bull boats. ps the first accepted and documented society in north america was at monte verde not washington(look it up)! stop making our hob harder as archeaologits and tell the truth about how we developed, when and what we domesticated and when/how we got to america(20 kyrs ago) austrailia(40k yrs ago) i watch this show now only to enrage my fury about how even so called experts would allow this bs to be aired to the next generation. ps i teach them ( the next generation) in 7 grade history.
The first thing that strikes me as the beautifully constructed Cat appears is that she wears a bra and underpantsthe skins they wear so well tanned. in the next installment of the clothes are sewn so fine, if the food time is there suddenly a modern goat quietly remain until he is picked to be a distance of a few meters, hey, wonderfully fresh, a dilapidated carcass of a yak with two wolves who are on stand to pee, clearly slaughtered by the film crew, etc. Also the constantly repeated then we are in big trouble! the viewer immediately believe.
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saving the trees and The Opportunity Party
For anyone still shaken if not by our recent earthquakes, then the US political election, comparisons between US president elect Donald Trump and would fake van cleef & arpels alhambra necklace be politician Gareth Morgan are inevitable.He replied the president elect has three audiences: "Those who have been left behind by globalisation, the technology revolution and the concentration of power amongst elites; those well to do American Republicans who have little to no belief that government should play any role in looking after the weak and vulnerable in society; and the bigots and intolerant in America who resent anyone who is not a facsimile of themselves, those 'deplorables' absolutely intolerant of minorities."It is a weird collective of support."Mr Morgan says the only group of the three he would identify with replica van cleef & arpels alhambra necklace is the first.Mr Morgan has spent about six months outside New Zealand this year.The charitable trust is "primarily for the purpose of reducing the wealth disparities between people".Waikato University Political Science senior lecturer Dr Patrick Barrett says Gareth Morgan's TOP party may "shake up the political marketplace."/Photo: suppliedWhen I reached him Monday via email, Mr Morgan was at sea, en route to Borneo, the world's third largest island and home to one of its oldest rainforests.He said he hoped to arrest deforestation."The plywood industry is ripping into the forest." just as it was in Madagascar, another island he had recently visited."For me, the cats initiative is over. We have achieved what we set out to do"Gareth MorganBack in Aotearoa, Mr Morgan announced earlier this month he resigned his position as Morgan Foundation trustee to launch his TOP political party.On the day before Guy Fawkes Night, he pledged to "light a fuse under this", saying he'd nudge, push and shove the establishment parties to make a difference for New Zealanders."I feel that a fair society is one that will gain far more prosperity overall."He told 48 Hours Bay of Plenty residents would benefit from TOP policies that re establish fairness in our tax and welfare system, and stimulate investment by firms that create employment."The Opportunity Party is about ensuring our children and their children are not disadvantaged by my generation leaving behind us housing that is unaffordable, rents that eat up most of their income, a public schooling system that fails to equip kids adequately for a world with different types imitation van cleef necklace alhambra of work, and a natural environment that is significantly degraded compared to the one we inherited."Mr Morgan said his party would be list only and would not run candidates in electorates.He plans to finish research involving the country's socio economic health in February before determining whether he has enough public support to gain at least five per cent of the vote."I have no intention of entering Parliament simply to make up the numbers, I am not seeking employment. But I am seeking to ensure that NZ is left a better place for my grandchildren."Mr Morgan said initially, he seeks to inform."But then it's up to you. If you say, 'Thanks, but no thanks', then we will not register. If you say 'Go for it, Sunshine', then we will contest the list vote.
For anyone still shaken if not by our recent earthquakes, then the US political election, comparisons between US president elect Donald Trump and would fake van cleef & arpels alhambra necklace be politician Gareth Morgan are inevitable.He replied the president elect has three audiences: "Those who have been left behind by globalisation, the technology revolution and the concentration of power amongst elites; those well to do American Republicans who have little to no belief that government should play any role in looking after the weak and vulnerable in society; and the bigots and intolerant in America who resent anyone who is not a facsimile of themselves, those 'deplorables' absolutely intolerant of minorities."It is a weird collective of support."Mr Morgan says the only group of the three he would identify with replica van cleef & arpels alhambra necklace is the first.Mr Morgan has spent about six months outside New Zealand this year.The charitable trust is "primarily for the purpose of reducing the wealth disparities between people".Waikato University Political Science senior lecturer Dr Patrick Barrett says Gareth Morgan's TOP party may "shake up the political marketplace."/Photo: suppliedWhen I reached him Monday via email, Mr Morgan was at sea, en route to Borneo, the world's third largest island and home to one of its oldest rainforests.He said he hoped to arrest deforestation."The plywood industry is ripping into the forest." just as it was in Madagascar, another island he had recently visited."For me, the cats initiative is over. We have achieved what we set out to do"Gareth MorganBack in Aotearoa, Mr Morgan announced earlier this month he resigned his position as Morgan Foundation trustee to launch his TOP political party.On the day before Guy Fawkes Night, he pledged to "light a fuse under this", saying he'd nudge, push and shove the establishment parties to make a difference for New Zealanders."I feel that a fair society is one that will gain far more prosperity overall."He told 48 Hours Bay of Plenty residents would benefit from TOP policies that re establish fairness in our tax and welfare system, and stimulate investment by firms that create employment."The Opportunity Party is about ensuring our children and their children are not disadvantaged by my generation leaving behind us housing that is unaffordable, rents that eat up most of their income, a public schooling system that fails to equip kids adequately for a world with different types imitation van cleef necklace alhambra of work, and a natural environment that is significantly degraded compared to the one we inherited."Mr Morgan said his party would be list only and would not run candidates in electorates.He plans to finish research involving the country's socio economic health in February before determining whether he has enough public support to gain at least five per cent of the vote."I have no intention of entering Parliament simply to make up the numbers, I am not seeking employment. But I am seeking to ensure that NZ is left a better place for my grandchildren."Mr Morgan said initially, he seeks to inform."But then it's up to you. If you say, 'Thanks, but no thanks', then we will not register. If you say 'Go for it, Sunshine', then we will contest the list vote.
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Virtually dead in Iraq
On the online video game Army, a strapping guy in camouflage scrambles on his belly across cracked dirt in a war torn city that looks like Baghdad. As he peers out from behind a low stone wall, he peels up to his feet and starts running down a hill toward a small square hut. He fires several rounds from his machine gun at another soldier, this one dressed in a black hooded outfit. Five yellow streaks flash from his gun, and the black hooded soldier rolls over and slides down a hill. Our guy in camouflage chases him till he sags against a van, shoots him again, and then satisfied that the dust emerging from his back indicates death, moves on.
Across the top of the screen appears the name of a real American soldier, his age and the date he was killed in Iraq. Last week that name read: A. HANSON JR 22 NOV. 28 2004. Army (to the tune of nearly $10 million), which is to say American taxpayers. But the name of the American soldier killed in Iraq, which those logged on to the game are forced to see, is certainly not part of the game design but the handiwork of artist Joseph DeLappe.
To streak entertainment with reality, DeLappe has turned Army into a war protest and a memorial to dead imitiaton hermes bag soldiers. Since the anniversary of the Iraq invasion this past March, DeLappe, chair of the art department at the University of Nevada, Reno, has been playing the game under the call sign which is also what he calls his work of art.
He logs on to the game and does nothing. While other online players around him simulate war and eventually shoot him he types into the program chat interface typically used for gamers to strategize with one another the name of each service person killed in Iraq. As of Sept. 14, he entered 1,273 names of the 2,670 Americans killed there; he plans to continue until the war ends. trying to remind other gamers that real people are dying in Iraq, DeLappe says.
The military funded Army in part to interest kids as young as 13 to join the Army. The virtual rifle range (free to download) is also a training ground for real combat in Iraq. With 7.5 million users since its release in 2002, Army has become the main place where young people learn about the military, according to a 2004 marketing survey conducted for the Army. It an way for young adults to explore the Army and its adventures and opportunities as a virtual soldier, reads the game official Web site, which links gamers to a military recruiter.
probably the only game out there on the Internet, where if it draws you in and gets you to join the military, you could die, says DeLappe, 43. DeLappe electronic and new media art has been shown at national and international exhibits, including the 2002 International Symposium on Electronic Art in Nagoya, Japan. Typically his works transpose common electronic objects, such as computer mice or video game joysticks, into large sculptural corncobs, sunflowers or mandalas. While all of his work questions the role and effect of technology in our lives, DeLappe says the meaning and impact of supersedes his earlier work.
bizarre that anyone can get absorbed in such an insane computer game simulating warfare, when there real suffering taking place, says the soft spoken artist. is a way to communicate a sense of loss and frustration with the fact that soldiers are dying over there and life just seems to be going on like normal over here. invasion of Iraq and the thousands who are dying there. His timing couldn be much better. His work slices into the heart of national dissatisfaction with the Iraq war and the lack of a government strategy to disengage. The list of dead and wounded soldiers and civilians continues to grow. soldiers killed, an estimated 43,000 Iraqi civilians have lost their lives, according to Iraq Body Count, a nonprofit group. A poll replica birkin handbags conducted for CNN found that as of last month, 60 percent of Americans oppose the war in Iraq, the highest number since the beginning of the war three and a half years ago.
Amid this growing political rancor, has sparked the blogosphere, bouncing around nearly 150 blogs, some of which praise it as elegant and clever. Rhizome, the country leading new media art organization, which resides at the New Museum of Contemporary Art, calls a co opting of the tools of digital culture. To some antiwar groups and parents of soldiers who were killed in Iraq, outraged by the $4 billion a year the military spends to recruit new soldiers, DeLappe performance art is valuable.
applaud him, says Celeste Zappala of Philadelphia, a member of the antiwar group Military Families Speak Out. Her son, Sgt. Sherwood Baker, a former nursery school teacher, disc jockey and member of the National Guard, was killed in Iraq in 2004. always believed when people participate in virtual violence, it makes the victims of violence become less empathetic and less real, and people become immune to the real pain people suffer. This war is real blood, and it real families that answer the door to learn that their loved ones have been killed.
DeLappe video game protest is not exactly Picasso famous rendering of the carnage of the Spanish civil war, but it occupies a room in a new school of political fake hermes bag art that lambastes the Iraq war. Many of DeLappe fellow artists in arms were on view this year at the Whitney Biennial, the controversial assembly of contemporary art. With the war raging, politics seemed to dominate the show. No work stood out more than a black and white poster by renowned artist Richard Serra, which showed the iconic image of the hooded prisoner at Abu Ghraib prison framed by the phrase, Bush. Network, called and Awful, highlighted everyday Americans disgust with the war. And sculptor Mark di Suvero and artist Rirkrit Tiravanija updated di Suvero famed Tower, constructed in rebellion against the Vietnam War, to rally people against the Iraq war. hope, I think, is to awaken people, to have our numbers multiply, Tiravanija told Artforum.
It always tricky to gauge the impact of political art, and DeLappe work is no different in that regard. After all, his main audience in Army comprises young gamers, some of them actual soldiers stationed in Iraq, who log on to the game for fun and emotional release from extreme stress. When they confront DeLappe protest, many are not amused. At ArmyOps Tracker, a chat room dedicated to discussion about Army, gamers with names like Itchytriggerfinger, Smoke and Bandit post comments about everything from technical trouble to strategy. On the topic of DeLappe, words aren minced: guy is an idiot and an ahole, wrote two. Many write him off as a jerk who screws up the game, although a few gamers offer more thoughtful explanations.
the same as if he were to crash a Girl Scout meeting by yelling through a megaphone that they should vote his candidate in to office; it isn the right time or place and it certainly isn the right audience, writes Pfc. Will Coveleskie, a teacher from Shamokin, Penn., who has played America Army since 2003. here to play a game, not read a CNN report.
Another gamer, Robert Kirby, 17, of Fort Worth, Texas, also doesn need to be reminded about the reality of war. already think about my friends enough who died, and the ones who are over there right now, writes Kirby, who is headed to college to enter law enforcement. really don care to see someone like him trolling in that server trying to stir up emotions like that.
Others explain DeLappe lacks a fundamental understanding of why the average gamer plays Army for several hours a day. Army propaganda attached to it makes no difference to us at all, writes Ghostdog, who has posted more than 2,000 comments on the Army Web site and has recruited three members since he joined in 2004. Developers that created this game did a wonderful job of building one of the most dynamic and competitive based games online to date. Players don play the game to mimic real war anymore than chess players do. Aping the actions of real soldiers and combat is futile through a medium like a simple video game.
Even if some gamers are personally moved by the protest (DeLappe hasn heard from any), the military is far from threatened by this artistic endeavor. Military spokesperson Lori Mezoff laughs when asked if the Army is concerned about the game affecting recruitment numbers. With users having spent more than 160 million hours playing Army, the military figures its investment of $2.5 million per year to expand and update the game is well worth it, Mezoff says.
On Sept. 14, the Army launched its 22nd update of the game. Included in the update is a program called America Army Real Heroes. It lists the accomplishments of soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan who have earned the nation highest awards for valor, such as the Silver Star or Distinguished Service Cross. While the real soldiers don play Army, gamers can read profiles or watch three minute video interviews of them talking about their childhood and military experiences. It a way to show recruits what the Army life is all about, Mezoff says.
Which DeLappe finds ironic. intention to make the game more real is basically what I trying to do, but all the soldiers happen to still be alive, he says. going to happen if one of them dies on another tour? Will they leave them in the game?
Surprisingly, DeLappe has not become a darling of the antiwar movement. While some peace activists laud his Hermes birkin bags fake effort, others sense that protest art is counterproductive.
the point when hundreds of thousands of people around the world were protesting and Bush said, a focus group; I don have to pay attention to you, symbolic protest where you simply hold up a sign and say, is what I feel being useful, says Michael Nagler, a peace scholar and activist who founded the Peace and Conflict Studies program at the University of California at Berkeley. in the peace movement gravitate toward art too quickly and use it too much. It hard for me to say this, but the time has come for direct action and civil disobedience.
DeLappe listens to Nagler comments and reflects on them quietly. Finally, he says that online spaces like Army are a critical place to interact with the world. going to where these impressionable kids are spending their time, he says. you get them where they live, and this causes them to think, even for an instant, then I think it effective. Art is a limited form for trying to change the world, but it the tool I have. This is what I do. As a media artist, this feels like my patriotic duty.
On the online video game Army, a strapping guy in camouflage scrambles on his belly across cracked dirt in a war torn city that looks like Baghdad. As he peers out from behind a low stone wall, he peels up to his feet and starts running down a hill toward a small square hut. He fires several rounds from his machine gun at another soldier, this one dressed in a black hooded outfit. Five yellow streaks flash from his gun, and the black hooded soldier rolls over and slides down a hill. Our guy in camouflage chases him till he sags against a van, shoots him again, and then satisfied that the dust emerging from his back indicates death, moves on.
Across the top of the screen appears the name of a real American soldier, his age and the date he was killed in Iraq. Last week that name read: A. HANSON JR 22 NOV. 28 2004. Army (to the tune of nearly $10 million), which is to say American taxpayers. But the name of the American soldier killed in Iraq, which those logged on to the game are forced to see, is certainly not part of the game design but the handiwork of artist Joseph DeLappe.
To streak entertainment with reality, DeLappe has turned Army into a war protest and a memorial to dead imitiaton hermes bag soldiers. Since the anniversary of the Iraq invasion this past March, DeLappe, chair of the art department at the University of Nevada, Reno, has been playing the game under the call sign which is also what he calls his work of art.
He logs on to the game and does nothing. While other online players around him simulate war and eventually shoot him he types into the program chat interface typically used for gamers to strategize with one another the name of each service person killed in Iraq. As of Sept. 14, he entered 1,273 names of the 2,670 Americans killed there; he plans to continue until the war ends. trying to remind other gamers that real people are dying in Iraq, DeLappe says.
The military funded Army in part to interest kids as young as 13 to join the Army. The virtual rifle range (free to download) is also a training ground for real combat in Iraq. With 7.5 million users since its release in 2002, Army has become the main place where young people learn about the military, according to a 2004 marketing survey conducted for the Army. It an way for young adults to explore the Army and its adventures and opportunities as a virtual soldier, reads the game official Web site, which links gamers to a military recruiter.
probably the only game out there on the Internet, where if it draws you in and gets you to join the military, you could die, says DeLappe, 43. DeLappe electronic and new media art has been shown at national and international exhibits, including the 2002 International Symposium on Electronic Art in Nagoya, Japan. Typically his works transpose common electronic objects, such as computer mice or video game joysticks, into large sculptural corncobs, sunflowers or mandalas. While all of his work questions the role and effect of technology in our lives, DeLappe says the meaning and impact of supersedes his earlier work.
bizarre that anyone can get absorbed in such an insane computer game simulating warfare, when there real suffering taking place, says the soft spoken artist. is a way to communicate a sense of loss and frustration with the fact that soldiers are dying over there and life just seems to be going on like normal over here. invasion of Iraq and the thousands who are dying there. His timing couldn be much better. His work slices into the heart of national dissatisfaction with the Iraq war and the lack of a government strategy to disengage. The list of dead and wounded soldiers and civilians continues to grow. soldiers killed, an estimated 43,000 Iraqi civilians have lost their lives, according to Iraq Body Count, a nonprofit group. A poll replica birkin handbags conducted for CNN found that as of last month, 60 percent of Americans oppose the war in Iraq, the highest number since the beginning of the war three and a half years ago.
Amid this growing political rancor, has sparked the blogosphere, bouncing around nearly 150 blogs, some of which praise it as elegant and clever. Rhizome, the country leading new media art organization, which resides at the New Museum of Contemporary Art, calls a co opting of the tools of digital culture. To some antiwar groups and parents of soldiers who were killed in Iraq, outraged by the $4 billion a year the military spends to recruit new soldiers, DeLappe performance art is valuable.
applaud him, says Celeste Zappala of Philadelphia, a member of the antiwar group Military Families Speak Out. Her son, Sgt. Sherwood Baker, a former nursery school teacher, disc jockey and member of the National Guard, was killed in Iraq in 2004. always believed when people participate in virtual violence, it makes the victims of violence become less empathetic and less real, and people become immune to the real pain people suffer. This war is real blood, and it real families that answer the door to learn that their loved ones have been killed.
DeLappe video game protest is not exactly Picasso famous rendering of the carnage of the Spanish civil war, but it occupies a room in a new school of political fake hermes bag art that lambastes the Iraq war. Many of DeLappe fellow artists in arms were on view this year at the Whitney Biennial, the controversial assembly of contemporary art. With the war raging, politics seemed to dominate the show. No work stood out more than a black and white poster by renowned artist Richard Serra, which showed the iconic image of the hooded prisoner at Abu Ghraib prison framed by the phrase, Bush. Network, called and Awful, highlighted everyday Americans disgust with the war. And sculptor Mark di Suvero and artist Rirkrit Tiravanija updated di Suvero famed Tower, constructed in rebellion against the Vietnam War, to rally people against the Iraq war. hope, I think, is to awaken people, to have our numbers multiply, Tiravanija told Artforum.
It always tricky to gauge the impact of political art, and DeLappe work is no different in that regard. After all, his main audience in Army comprises young gamers, some of them actual soldiers stationed in Iraq, who log on to the game for fun and emotional release from extreme stress. When they confront DeLappe protest, many are not amused. At ArmyOps Tracker, a chat room dedicated to discussion about Army, gamers with names like Itchytriggerfinger, Smoke and Bandit post comments about everything from technical trouble to strategy. On the topic of DeLappe, words aren minced: guy is an idiot and an ahole, wrote two. Many write him off as a jerk who screws up the game, although a few gamers offer more thoughtful explanations.
the same as if he were to crash a Girl Scout meeting by yelling through a megaphone that they should vote his candidate in to office; it isn the right time or place and it certainly isn the right audience, writes Pfc. Will Coveleskie, a teacher from Shamokin, Penn., who has played America Army since 2003. here to play a game, not read a CNN report.
Another gamer, Robert Kirby, 17, of Fort Worth, Texas, also doesn need to be reminded about the reality of war. already think about my friends enough who died, and the ones who are over there right now, writes Kirby, who is headed to college to enter law enforcement. really don care to see someone like him trolling in that server trying to stir up emotions like that.
Others explain DeLappe lacks a fundamental understanding of why the average gamer plays Army for several hours a day. Army propaganda attached to it makes no difference to us at all, writes Ghostdog, who has posted more than 2,000 comments on the Army Web site and has recruited three members since he joined in 2004. Developers that created this game did a wonderful job of building one of the most dynamic and competitive based games online to date. Players don play the game to mimic real war anymore than chess players do. Aping the actions of real soldiers and combat is futile through a medium like a simple video game.
Even if some gamers are personally moved by the protest (DeLappe hasn heard from any), the military is far from threatened by this artistic endeavor. Military spokesperson Lori Mezoff laughs when asked if the Army is concerned about the game affecting recruitment numbers. With users having spent more than 160 million hours playing Army, the military figures its investment of $2.5 million per year to expand and update the game is well worth it, Mezoff says.
On Sept. 14, the Army launched its 22nd update of the game. Included in the update is a program called America Army Real Heroes. It lists the accomplishments of soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan who have earned the nation highest awards for valor, such as the Silver Star or Distinguished Service Cross. While the real soldiers don play Army, gamers can read profiles or watch three minute video interviews of them talking about their childhood and military experiences. It a way to show recruits what the Army life is all about, Mezoff says.
Which DeLappe finds ironic. intention to make the game more real is basically what I trying to do, but all the soldiers happen to still be alive, he says. going to happen if one of them dies on another tour? Will they leave them in the game?
Surprisingly, DeLappe has not become a darling of the antiwar movement. While some peace activists laud his Hermes birkin bags fake effort, others sense that protest art is counterproductive.
the point when hundreds of thousands of people around the world were protesting and Bush said, a focus group; I don have to pay attention to you, symbolic protest where you simply hold up a sign and say, is what I feel being useful, says Michael Nagler, a peace scholar and activist who founded the Peace and Conflict Studies program at the University of California at Berkeley. in the peace movement gravitate toward art too quickly and use it too much. It hard for me to say this, but the time has come for direct action and civil disobedience.
DeLappe listens to Nagler comments and reflects on them quietly. Finally, he says that online spaces like Army are a critical place to interact with the world. going to where these impressionable kids are spending their time, he says. you get them where they live, and this causes them to think, even for an instant, then I think it effective. Art is a limited form for trying to change the world, but it the tool I have. This is what I do. As a media artist, this feels like my patriotic duty.
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The outline is from representative for children and youth Mary Ellen Turpel Lafond, delivered to a committee of MLAs on Wednesday.
"Let's say you have a 13 14 year old girl who's in custody, and she's been sent to Burnaby. A panel van will pick her up with a sheriff. In that panel van might van ring fake also be adults, not just other children.
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"They will have been fed fast food that day. They will have been transported and been interacting with uniformed people in a variety of holding environments and criminal environments. They will finally get a chance to appear in court, where, I can assure you from looking at these cases and working with these children, they will be so disempowered that they really will not have a voice to say anything to anyone."
The idea of getting picked up in the pre dawn and driven around for hours before participating in court proceedings to determine their liberty is simply inappropriate, she said, particularly if the offender is an aboriginal youth who's likely suffered significant dislocation and probably also been the victim of criminal behaviour. And there's likely no parent around to complain that their child was being carted around in a van for hours with adult offenders with serious violent cases before the courts.
"I put these points out because the reality of how the youth justice system works We're all very insulated from it."
The description was a prelude to her registering "my strongest objections" to the decision to shut the centre down. "Because we don't want to spend the money to have a custody centre, we're going to make them travel for hours and hours and hours."
She applauded Victoria police's intention to defy the government's replacement plan of housing children in the police cells. "They know well that there are serious liability issues with placing young girls and boys in a police cell beside adult populations."
Turpel Lafond said if another service say, knee surgeries was being centralized in one location, there would be a hue and cry about abandoning patient centred care. "But when it comes to children and the youth justice system, what about child centred supports?"
Children and Family Development Minister Stephanie Cadieux announced the shutdown last week as a done deal. But there's a swell of opposition to the idea and it's coming from some powerful places. Turpel Lafond and provincial health officer Dr. Perry Kendall have written a public letter condemning the idea. Local police departments are shaking their heads at what's expected of them.
Others in the judicial system are fuming, and various local governments are considering resolutions opposing the closure. It would be an uphill fight to change what Turpel Lafond called a wrong headed, flawed, unworkable and completely inappropriate decision. But the fight's not over.
Just So You Know: The representative reminded MLAs of another peremptory closure in 2008. The mom baby program in a women's jail was shut down to save money. A charter challenge was filed and the government lost on all counts late last year. Now it has to scramble to put the program back together again. That case could have implications for the Victoria centre.
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The outline is from representative for children and youth Mary Ellen Turpel Lafond, delivered to a committee of MLAs on Wednesday.
"Let's say you have a 13 14 year old girl who's in custody, and she's been sent to Burnaby. A panel van will pick her up with a sheriff. In that panel van might van ring fake also be adults, not just other children.
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"They will then make it to a police cell somewhere here or possibly the cells in the courthouse, where they will spend several hours in the cells waiting for their matter to come forward. when the court finally gets to that part of the list.
"They will have been fed fast food that day. They will have been transported and been interacting with uniformed people in a variety of holding environments and criminal environments. They will finally get a chance to appear in court, where, I can assure you from looking at these cases and working with these children, they will be so disempowered that they really will not have a voice to say anything to anyone."
The idea of getting picked up in the pre dawn and driven around for hours before participating in court proceedings to determine their liberty is simply inappropriate, she said, particularly if the offender is an aboriginal youth who's likely suffered significant dislocation and probably also been the victim of criminal behaviour. And there's likely no parent around to complain that their child was being carted around in a van for hours with adult offenders with serious violent cases before the courts.
"I put these points out because the reality of how the youth justice system works We're all very insulated from it."
The description was a prelude to her registering "my strongest objections" to the decision to shut the centre down. "Because we don't want to spend the money to have a custody centre, we're going to make them travel for hours and hours and hours."
She applauded Victoria police's intention to defy the government's replacement plan of housing children in the police cells. "They know well that there are serious liability issues with placing young girls and boys in a police cell beside adult populations."
Turpel Lafond said if another service say, knee surgeries was being centralized in one location, there would be a hue and cry about abandoning patient centred care. "But when it comes to children and the youth justice system, what about child centred supports?"
Children and Family Development Minister Stephanie Cadieux announced the shutdown last week as a done deal. But there's a swell of opposition to the idea and it's coming from some powerful places. Turpel Lafond and provincial health officer Dr. Perry Kendall have written a public letter condemning the idea. Local police departments are shaking their heads at what's expected of them.
Others in the judicial system are fuming, and various local governments are considering resolutions opposing the closure. It would be an uphill fight to change what Turpel Lafond called a wrong headed, flawed, unworkable and completely inappropriate decision. But the fight's not over.
Just So You Know: The representative reminded MLAs of another peremptory closure in 2008. The mom baby program in a women's jail was shut down to save money. A charter challenge was filed and the government lost on all counts late last year. Now it has to scramble to put the program back together again. That case could have implications for the Victoria centre.
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"There haven't been any enquiries but certainly the status of him at the moment is that he is simply not for sale.
"The way we operate in the transfer windows has always been the same.
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"Unless you are going to break all kinds of transfer records, or you're the type of club that has the finances to do that, whatever you do you are going to pay over the top and probably for a player you would rather not have because the guy you want is not going to be available.
"Our focus is that we don't panic and we are not tempted to patch things up, but we do have a situation where if an opportunity did arise and we could improve the squad then we would consider it on its merits at the time."
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"Our focus is that we don't panic and we are not tempted to patch things up, but we do have a situation where if an opportunity did arise and we could improve the squad then we would consider it on its merits at the time."
recruit Evans focuses on ailing mom
Lions won't be applying the brakes to it.
Married to Canadian Olympic 400 metre runner Jenna Martin Evans a candidate for the 2018 Winter Games bobsleigh team theirs is no ordinary relationship.
A 29 year old Californian of Samoan extraction, DeQuin is training in preparation for his first season with the Leos, who signed the former Montreal Alouettes defensive end to a two year contract duringCFL free agency this month.
His wife, the former Jenna Martin, competed for Canada in the 2012 Summer Olympics before ditching her track shoes last year to take up bobsleigh. When two time Olympic gold medallist Kallie Humphries wants to recruit you as her brakeman, you listen.
"After I retired from track, I jumped right on it," Martin Evans explained Wednesday. "Kallie has contacted me over the last four years to give it a try and see where it leads. I got here (Calgary) a month ago. I knew I would regret it, if I didn't come out. She knows how to win."
Relocating to Calgary to train at Canada Olympic Park her husband played with the Stampeders for two seasons (2014 15) hasn only shortened the couple's long distance relationship, but also turned back the clock to their undergraduate days at the University of Kentucky, where the athletes from Nova Scotia and Southern California met while representing the Wildcats in football and track.
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While signing with the Lions is foremost a football decision, Evans insists, being closer to his wife and his mother, Samoan born Penina Maefau, are important benefits of the move to the West Coast. His mom, 48, lives in Tacoma, Wash., and is battling stomach cancer after previous rounds of radiation and chemotherapy to beat back breast cancer.
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"In Montreal, he's got to compete against John Bowman," says Lions head coach and general managerWally Buono. "In Calgary, he's got to compete against Charleston Hughes. No matter how good you are, sometimes you're not going to get your chance. We like him. And he's excited about coming. It gives us an experienced veteran who can start for us."
With his ailing mom three hours' drive south, and his wife a short hop flight away in Calgary, Evans sees Vancouver ideally situated at the nexus of his personal and professional life.
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Lions won't be applying the brakes to it.
Married to Canadian Olympic 400 metre runner Jenna Martin Evans a candidate for the 2018 Winter Games bobsleigh team theirs is no ordinary relationship.
A 29 year old Californian of Samoan extraction, DeQuin is training in preparation for his first season with the Leos, who signed the former Montreal Alouettes defensive end to a two year contract duringCFL free agency this month.
His wife, the former Jenna Martin, competed for Canada in the 2012 Summer Olympics before ditching her track shoes last year to take up bobsleigh. When two time Olympic gold medallist Kallie Humphries wants to recruit you as her brakeman, you listen.
"After I retired from track, I jumped right on it," Martin Evans explained Wednesday. "Kallie has contacted me over the last four years to give it a try and see where it leads. I got here (Calgary) a month ago. I knew I would regret it, if I didn't come out. She knows how to win."
Relocating to Calgary to train at Canada Olympic Park her husband played with the Stampeders for two seasons (2014 15) hasn only shortened the couple's long distance relationship, but also turned back the clock to their undergraduate days at the University of Kentucky, where the athletes from Nova Scotia and Southern California met while representing the Wildcats in football and track.
"The athletic world, even at a major university, is a small one," Jenna says. "DeQuin has been stalking me for a while (laughs). Our relationship has been long distance more than anything. Three years ago, this summer, I finally gave in (marriage). I'm here to support him any way I can. It's just amazing how he can put the weight of the world on his shoulders and be OK. I admire the way he's stepping up and leading his family."
While signing with the Lions is foremost a football decision, Evans insists, being closer to his wife and his mother, Samoan born Penina Maefau, are important benefits of the move to the West Coast. His mom, 48, lives in Tacoma, Wash., and is battling stomach cancer after previous rounds of radiation and chemotherapy to beat back breast cancer.
DeQuin spends much of his off season these days in van cleef gold earrings replica Tacoma, attending to her needs, between training sessions and brief side trips to Calgary to be with his wife.
"My mom was always there for me, growing up, and I want to be there for her now," he explains. "My wife is very understanding of the situation. It's a blessing to wake up every day and be able to just make coffee for her. My mom struggled to raise four kids in a tough neighbourhood. She's a soldier. with a state sanctioned, high school sports program and the focus of the 2006 movie, Gridiron Gang, starring Dwayne (The Rock) Johnson.
It helped to turn his life around. Harbor Junior College and later was recruited by Kentucky, along with childhood friend Chris van cleef pearl earrings replica Matthews, the 2012 CFL rookie of the year with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers and a Super Bowl champion with the Seattle Seahawks.
Undrafted in 2011, Evans caught on with the Cincinnati Bengals for three seasons before coming to Calgary in 2014.
Playing behind John Bowman and Gabriel Knapton last year with the Als, he appeared in just five games. His signing with the Lions who lost sack leader Alex Bazzie to the Indianapolis Colts in free agency might be just the career break he needs.
"In Montreal, he's got to compete against John Bowman," says Lions head coach and general managerWally Buono. "In Calgary, he's got to compete against Charleston Hughes. No matter how good you are, sometimes you're not going to get your chance. We like him. And he's excited about coming. It gives us an experienced veteran who can start for us."
With his ailing mom three hours' drive south, and his wife a short hop flight away in Calgary, Evans sees Vancouver ideally situated at the nexus of his personal and professional life.
"Playing for one of the greatest coaches, if not the greatest in CFL history, is hands down a blessing," he says. "As far as leadership, I'm here to help bring the young rooks along. What else do I bring? I can definitely get to the quarterback and make it hell for offensive linemen, complete hell. epaper, Digital Access, Subscriber Rewards), please input your Print Newspaper subscription phone number and postal code.
By clicking "Create Account", I hearby grant permission to Postmedia to use my account information to create my account.
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Slumping Canadiens hoping to end goal drought against Maple Leafs
BROSSARD, Que. The goals have all but dried up for the Montreal Canadiens but they hope to break the drought when they visit the sometimes defensively suspect Toronto Maple Leafs on Saturday night.
But Toronto, which is 21st overall allowing 2.87 goals per game, will be just as eager to face a Montreal side that has gone 2 6 1 in its last 10 games and scored only 14 goals.
And Toronto, with two games in hand, has a chance to reduce its five point gap with the Atlantic Division leading Canadiens. Especially if the Montreal forwards continue to fire blanks.
"We've definitely got to earn a better results," Canadiens winger Brendan Gallagher said Friday. "Goal scoring isn't easy, especially at this time of year.
"You've just got to up your intensity. It's not so much the offensive zone play, it's more the transition game in the neutral zone. Being smarter with the puck and really sticking to your structure."
Only four Montreal forwards have scored in the past 10 games. Captain Max Pacioretty has half of the output with seven goals.
Gallagher hasn't had a point in the four games he's played since returning from a hand injury. After registering 19 goals in only 53 games last season, he has six in 43 outings so far this year.
Among top forwards, centre Phillip Danault and left winger Artturi Lehkonen haven't scored in their last 13 games. Tomas Plekanec has gone 12 games with a goal. Paul Byron has gone 10 while Alexander Radulov is in a five game rut. Alex Galchenyuk has a goal and two assists in his last 10 games.
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But they're working on it.
"We've done a good job of doing what we talked about defensively, getting the puck out quicker," said Julien. "We've given up less scoring chances.
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The Canadiens worked on those areas Friday and hope to see the results in Toronto. They feel they have the talent to do it.
Even with their recent struggles, the Canadiens remain in the top half of the league with 2.74 goals scored per game.
The youthful Leafs are sixth best with 3.1 goals per game. Other than James Van Riemsdyk, who hasn't scored in 10 games, their top attackers are filling the net.
William Nylander and Auston Matthews have three goals each in the last six games and Nazem Kadri has five. However, Toronto might be missing another young talent, Mitch Marner, who is close to returning from a shoulder injury.
The Leafs may be ready to break out after losing 2 1 to the Canadiens in each of their first two meetings in Montreal.
Julien is wary of the Leafs, who scored 10 times in two wins over his Boston Bruins this season before he was fired Feb. 7. Julien signed the following week with Montreal.
"They got a lot of first round picks that were early picks and it makes a big difference," said Julien. "Those teams obviously finished low for many years to be able to get those kinds of players, but Babs (coach Mike Babcock) has done a great job of bringing those kids along.
"There's a lot of skill and obviously a lot of speed in that lineup. We have to play smart. They may be energetic, but we have to use our experience to our advantage. We have to respect their strengths. Those guys, whether its Matthews, Marner or others have been really good for them, but a solid performance by the whole team is what we're looking for."
The Canadiens may make lineup changes.
It appears Lehkonen will stay on left wing on the second line with Galchenyuk and Gallagher after being moved up there for the third period of a 3 0 loss to the New York Islanders on Thursday.
Centre David Desharnais, a scratch the last six games, and Sven Andrighetto skated on the fourth line in place of Michael McCarron and Brian Flynn. And Nikita Nestorov replaced Greg Pateryn on the third defence pair.
BROSSARD, Que. The goals have all but dried up for the Montreal Canadiens but they hope to break the drought when they visit the sometimes defensively suspect Toronto Maple Leafs on Saturday night.
But Toronto, which is 21st overall allowing 2.87 goals per game, will be just as eager to face a Montreal side that has gone 2 6 1 in its last 10 games and scored only 14 goals.
And Toronto, with two games in hand, has a chance to reduce its five point gap with the Atlantic Division leading Canadiens. Especially if the Montreal forwards continue to fire blanks.
"We've definitely got to earn a better results," Canadiens winger Brendan Gallagher said Friday. "Goal scoring isn't easy, especially at this time of year.
"You've just got to up your intensity. It's not so much the offensive zone play, it's more the transition game in the neutral zone. Being smarter with the puck and really sticking to your structure."
Only four Montreal forwards have scored in the past 10 games. Captain Max Pacioretty has half of the output with seven goals.
Gallagher hasn't had a point in the four games he's played since returning from a hand injury. After registering 19 goals in only 53 games last season, he has six in 43 outings so far this year.
Among top forwards, centre Phillip Danault and left winger Artturi Lehkonen haven't scored in their last 13 games. Tomas Plekanec has gone 12 games with a goal. Paul Byron has gone 10 while Alexander Radulov is in a five game rut. Alex Galchenyuk has a goal and two assists in his last 10 games.
Even a coaching change that saw Michel Therrien replaced last week by Claude Julien has yet to spark replica van cleef mini alhambra earrings the attack. The Canadiens replica van cleef & arpels alhambra earrings are 1 van cleef mother of pearl earrings replica 2 0 and with four goals in three games under Julien.
But they're working on it.
"We've done a good job of doing what we talked about defensively, getting the puck out quicker," said Julien. "We've given up less scoring chances.
"But now we've got to work on our offence. From playing better defensively and getting the puck, then what do we do? I think one of the big issues is probably our neutral zone transition, which hasn't been very good. It's got to be quick. You've got to have support. And then you've got to want to make sure you cross the blue line with speed. Also, there's the confidence of players."
The Canadiens worked on those areas Friday and hope to see the results in Toronto. They feel they have the talent to do it.
Even with their recent struggles, the Canadiens remain in the top half of the league with 2.74 goals scored per game.
The youthful Leafs are sixth best with 3.1 goals per game. Other than James Van Riemsdyk, who hasn't scored in 10 games, their top attackers are filling the net.
William Nylander and Auston Matthews have three goals each in the last six games and Nazem Kadri has five. However, Toronto might be missing another young talent, Mitch Marner, who is close to returning from a shoulder injury.
The Leafs may be ready to break out after losing 2 1 to the Canadiens in each of their first two meetings in Montreal.
Julien is wary of the Leafs, who scored 10 times in two wins over his Boston Bruins this season before he was fired Feb. 7. Julien signed the following week with Montreal.
"They got a lot of first round picks that were early picks and it makes a big difference," said Julien. "Those teams obviously finished low for many years to be able to get those kinds of players, but Babs (coach Mike Babcock) has done a great job of bringing those kids along.
"There's a lot of skill and obviously a lot of speed in that lineup. We have to play smart. They may be energetic, but we have to use our experience to our advantage. We have to respect their strengths. Those guys, whether its Matthews, Marner or others have been really good for them, but a solid performance by the whole team is what we're looking for."
The Canadiens may make lineup changes.
It appears Lehkonen will stay on left wing on the second line with Galchenyuk and Gallagher after being moved up there for the third period of a 3 0 loss to the New York Islanders on Thursday.
Centre David Desharnais, a scratch the last six games, and Sven Andrighetto skated on the fourth line in place of Michael McCarron and Brian Flynn. And Nikita Nestorov replaced Greg Pateryn on the third defence pair.
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