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even without the illusions
By Lord Chris Smith, Special to CNN
Editor note: Chris Smith is a member of Britain's House of Lords and a former Secretary of State for Culture and Media in the Tony Blair government. election, and what the Obama presidency has meant for ties with other countries.
When Barack Obama was running for office four years ago, and then being triumphantly elected that November, the overwhelming view in Britain was that he was exciting, intelligent, inspirational, and offered the chance to move away decisively from the dark shadow that George W. Bush had cast over virtually the whole of the rest of the world. Polls taken copy van cleef & arpels earrings here regularly showed between 70 percent and 80 percent favorability for Obama, a view shared right across the political spectrum.
The Bush effect should not be underestimated. We had all watched with fascinated horror as the Florida ballots were counted and re counted back in 2000. We had been shocked and moved by 9/11, and had wanted to stand shoulder to shoulder with our American friends. But we had been appalled by the decision to go to war in Iraq, and the mishandling of everything that followed. We were already puzzled by the close affection apparently demonstrated by our own prime minister, Tony Blair, towards Bush; but when he plunged into Iraq alongside him Blair's popularity and support in Britain took a nose dive and has never really recovered. Obama offered something very new and different, and we loved what we saw.
Four years on, things are different inevitably but not hugely so. There is less of the excitement and inspiration, yes, and there is considerable disappointment that he hasn't lived wholly up to the promise of the earlier campaign. The disappointment, though, is tempered by an acknowledgment that it has been almost impossible for him to get anything through a deadlocked Congress, and most British politicians are heartily glad that we don't have the same extreme balance of power here. A British government can, within reason, get on and do what it sets out to do: held to account by the court of public opinion, of course, but able to govern with a much greater degree of certainty.
Despite the deadlocks and the willful "oppositionalism" of the Republicans, however, there is general admiration for the fact that he has managed to achieve quite a lot: the stimulus package (in contrast to the austerity approach that is bedevilling European recovery), the health care reforms, and a more open hearted approach to international relations, especially. A clear majority of the British people would endorse a second Obama term without hesitation.
In case you might be thinking that "he would say this, wouldn't he" being a politician of the center left I would hasten to point out that this is a view shared by most of my Conservative friends and colleagues too. You have only to look at the nature of the Republican Party to see the reason why. The Republican Party of Eisenhower and Rockefeller has vanished, and in its place has come a hard right, anti government, socially conservative, economically extreme liberal party that somehow manages to convey a combination of callousness and nastiness almost as a matter of pride. The labeling of the British National Health Service as a creation of Soviet style tyranny is a case in point. The NHS carries massive support across every single political party in Britain, and is deeply loved and cherished. The denial of the reality of climate change is another. The fact that our global climate is changing, already, as a result of man made emissions is again accepted across the political spectrum here. The proposal to legislate for gay marriage has come, here in Britain, from a Conservative prime minister. The Republicans are simply way out of step with the British center right.
There's another worry with the Republicans, too. economy back into recession. economy in order to begin to recover, itself. Our British economy needs a progressive, growth orientated American administration in order to be able to pick itself back off the floor.
So "Obama without illusions" is where the British are placed right now. We know the current president isn't perfect even if we permitted ourselves a brief hope, four years ago, that he might be. But he's the very best we have, or are likely to have, and we're all keeping our fingers firmly crossed for November 6.
Lord Smith's article is rubbish. He states that "most conservatives agree" but then doesn't provide any names. Uh okay. Then he proceeds to talk about the dark shadow Bush cast. Excuse me, but who was at the helm when terrorism gained traction in the 90s? That's right, Bill Clinton. The darkness has]d already descended, Lord Smith,a fact you and your fellow lefties don't seem to be able to grasp.
If one considers Europe's long and sorry history of governance by both right and left they could hardly listen to Lord Smith without breaking into loud guffaws. Europe is a mess and has always been so. That is van cleef and arpels earrings alhambra imitation why so many people of European descend are spread throughout the globe.
August 29, 2012 at 2:04 pm Reply
In this age of extreme media, its very difficult to tell half truths to win votes/elections. Both parties participate in this behavior and unfortunately the American people who accept it are influenced by the safety of their community views or their current environment. Its our right as American citizens to be told the complete truth of both sides of the aisle and allow us to decide accordingly.
As a Registered Republican, I a firm believer in smaller government, but in these current economic conditions, we need more participation from our gov to stimulate the economy. The American auto industry is bouncing back thanks to gov support. The economy as a whole will in time, its not an overnight solution for either party and if you believe either side, its simply a bill of goods that can be purchased.
Politics have gone to the wayside in this country. Its imperative for non partisan reporting of the truths of both sides. Do we care about tax returns birth certificates? Senseless.
We need to step up and find a way to a bi partisan solution. De regulation existed under Reagan, and continued through Clinton and GWB. The re establishment of the banking system with a greater awareness of investment policy regulation is the beginning of a new economy. It has nothing to do with the threats of universal health care systems or loweing the taxes on the upper 10%. Yes, they are talking points, but the rich will still find shelters and the uninsured will suffer. Reagan was successful due to tiime and place of his presidency, but even more important he and Clinton were able to reach across the aisle to communicate on behalf of compromise for all, which is lost.
Our nation needs leaders who speak to all for all and tell the whole story, not just the politicos to get re elected.
August 29, 2012 at 2:06 pm Reply
So this is the best CNN can do to support Obama? I guess all they have is people in other nations like him since they can speak to his Of course other people in other nations like him as he belittles the US when he can, gives in to them, and is ruining our nation making them look better. He can run for office based on the Stimulus as Greenspan has come out saying the huge deficits that created offset the stimulus so the overall impact on the economy has been negative! He can run on Obamacare as the cost estimates keep going up, and this is despite the plan enforcing a $700+ Billion dollar cut into Medicare for aging seniors! He can run on foriegn policy as given the rise of islamist power in Libya, Syria, Egypt, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. So all he has to run on is countries like me or should hate Romney due to where is the smear of the moment. And CNN is supporting this farce or a man. For shame.
August 29, 2012 at 2:09 pm Reply
I really respect Fareed POV, but not sure why this Labor Pol opinion should matter. Europeans, Brits and others have often liked Democrats more than Republicans for decades so this is nothing new.
Bush ticked everyone off by dragging Europe and the rest of the world into Iraq without building a coalition. Look at the different approach his own father took in and the result.
I also don understand why government is copy van cleef and arpels flower earrings the one to liberate and help our economy. If we in recession because all the banks and business lost money, and the banks all go their money back but the businesses haven yet, how does Government re allocation of that money (to other groups) help get us out of recession.
We are coming slowly out of recession DESPITE Obama 3 $1trillion stimulus bills. He has no plans and no way to help us further it just the course Romney is looking at things like Obama promised: restructuring government and reducing the burden on people and businesses to keep this overbloated government afloat.
August 29, 2012 at 2:21 pm Reply
Much of this debate, and the hard headed clashes between right and left oriented people, suffers from a devastating flaw in reasoning. The assumtion that one must choose to accept or reject either capitalism or socialism. or any other country. It is quite obvious that a third option exists and is more indicative of actual policies of nations that consider themselves or All such countries exercise a balancing act between these socio economic theories. Some have better results that others, but this balancing act is a relatively new experiment that needs TIME, THOUGHT and actual DISCUSSION in order to reach an appropriate equilibrium. The formula for such success is unique to every country particular challenges. That being said, it is evident that talk which advocates for strict adoption of one or the other theories in all areas of socio economic policies, is flawed from the start.
By Lord Chris Smith, Special to CNN
Editor note: Chris Smith is a member of Britain's House of Lords and a former Secretary of State for Culture and Media in the Tony Blair government. election, and what the Obama presidency has meant for ties with other countries.
When Barack Obama was running for office four years ago, and then being triumphantly elected that November, the overwhelming view in Britain was that he was exciting, intelligent, inspirational, and offered the chance to move away decisively from the dark shadow that George W. Bush had cast over virtually the whole of the rest of the world. Polls taken copy van cleef & arpels earrings here regularly showed between 70 percent and 80 percent favorability for Obama, a view shared right across the political spectrum.
The Bush effect should not be underestimated. We had all watched with fascinated horror as the Florida ballots were counted and re counted back in 2000. We had been shocked and moved by 9/11, and had wanted to stand shoulder to shoulder with our American friends. But we had been appalled by the decision to go to war in Iraq, and the mishandling of everything that followed. We were already puzzled by the close affection apparently demonstrated by our own prime minister, Tony Blair, towards Bush; but when he plunged into Iraq alongside him Blair's popularity and support in Britain took a nose dive and has never really recovered. Obama offered something very new and different, and we loved what we saw.
Four years on, things are different inevitably but not hugely so. There is less of the excitement and inspiration, yes, and there is considerable disappointment that he hasn't lived wholly up to the promise of the earlier campaign. The disappointment, though, is tempered by an acknowledgment that it has been almost impossible for him to get anything through a deadlocked Congress, and most British politicians are heartily glad that we don't have the same extreme balance of power here. A British government can, within reason, get on and do what it sets out to do: held to account by the court of public opinion, of course, but able to govern with a much greater degree of certainty.
Despite the deadlocks and the willful "oppositionalism" of the Republicans, however, there is general admiration for the fact that he has managed to achieve quite a lot: the stimulus package (in contrast to the austerity approach that is bedevilling European recovery), the health care reforms, and a more open hearted approach to international relations, especially. A clear majority of the British people would endorse a second Obama term without hesitation.
In case you might be thinking that "he would say this, wouldn't he" being a politician of the center left I would hasten to point out that this is a view shared by most of my Conservative friends and colleagues too. You have only to look at the nature of the Republican Party to see the reason why. The Republican Party of Eisenhower and Rockefeller has vanished, and in its place has come a hard right, anti government, socially conservative, economically extreme liberal party that somehow manages to convey a combination of callousness and nastiness almost as a matter of pride. The labeling of the British National Health Service as a creation of Soviet style tyranny is a case in point. The NHS carries massive support across every single political party in Britain, and is deeply loved and cherished. The denial of the reality of climate change is another. The fact that our global climate is changing, already, as a result of man made emissions is again accepted across the political spectrum here. The proposal to legislate for gay marriage has come, here in Britain, from a Conservative prime minister. The Republicans are simply way out of step with the British center right.
There's another worry with the Republicans, too. economy back into recession. economy in order to begin to recover, itself. Our British economy needs a progressive, growth orientated American administration in order to be able to pick itself back off the floor.
So "Obama without illusions" is where the British are placed right now. We know the current president isn't perfect even if we permitted ourselves a brief hope, four years ago, that he might be. But he's the very best we have, or are likely to have, and we're all keeping our fingers firmly crossed for November 6.
Lord Smith's article is rubbish. He states that "most conservatives agree" but then doesn't provide any names. Uh okay. Then he proceeds to talk about the dark shadow Bush cast. Excuse me, but who was at the helm when terrorism gained traction in the 90s? That's right, Bill Clinton. The darkness has]d already descended, Lord Smith,a fact you and your fellow lefties don't seem to be able to grasp.
If one considers Europe's long and sorry history of governance by both right and left they could hardly listen to Lord Smith without breaking into loud guffaws. Europe is a mess and has always been so. That is van cleef and arpels earrings alhambra imitation why so many people of European descend are spread throughout the globe.
August 29, 2012 at 2:04 pm Reply
In this age of extreme media, its very difficult to tell half truths to win votes/elections. Both parties participate in this behavior and unfortunately the American people who accept it are influenced by the safety of their community views or their current environment. Its our right as American citizens to be told the complete truth of both sides of the aisle and allow us to decide accordingly.
As a Registered Republican, I a firm believer in smaller government, but in these current economic conditions, we need more participation from our gov to stimulate the economy. The American auto industry is bouncing back thanks to gov support. The economy as a whole will in time, its not an overnight solution for either party and if you believe either side, its simply a bill of goods that can be purchased.
Politics have gone to the wayside in this country. Its imperative for non partisan reporting of the truths of both sides. Do we care about tax returns birth certificates? Senseless.
We need to step up and find a way to a bi partisan solution. De regulation existed under Reagan, and continued through Clinton and GWB. The re establishment of the banking system with a greater awareness of investment policy regulation is the beginning of a new economy. It has nothing to do with the threats of universal health care systems or loweing the taxes on the upper 10%. Yes, they are talking points, but the rich will still find shelters and the uninsured will suffer. Reagan was successful due to tiime and place of his presidency, but even more important he and Clinton were able to reach across the aisle to communicate on behalf of compromise for all, which is lost.
Our nation needs leaders who speak to all for all and tell the whole story, not just the politicos to get re elected.
August 29, 2012 at 2:06 pm Reply
So this is the best CNN can do to support Obama? I guess all they have is people in other nations like him since they can speak to his Of course other people in other nations like him as he belittles the US when he can, gives in to them, and is ruining our nation making them look better. He can run for office based on the Stimulus as Greenspan has come out saying the huge deficits that created offset the stimulus so the overall impact on the economy has been negative! He can run on Obamacare as the cost estimates keep going up, and this is despite the plan enforcing a $700+ Billion dollar cut into Medicare for aging seniors! He can run on foriegn policy as given the rise of islamist power in Libya, Syria, Egypt, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. So all he has to run on is countries like me or should hate Romney due to where is the smear of the moment. And CNN is supporting this farce or a man. For shame.
August 29, 2012 at 2:09 pm Reply
I really respect Fareed POV, but not sure why this Labor Pol opinion should matter. Europeans, Brits and others have often liked Democrats more than Republicans for decades so this is nothing new.
Bush ticked everyone off by dragging Europe and the rest of the world into Iraq without building a coalition. Look at the different approach his own father took in and the result.
I also don understand why government is copy van cleef and arpels flower earrings the one to liberate and help our economy. If we in recession because all the banks and business lost money, and the banks all go their money back but the businesses haven yet, how does Government re allocation of that money (to other groups) help get us out of recession.
We are coming slowly out of recession DESPITE Obama 3 $1trillion stimulus bills. He has no plans and no way to help us further it just the course Romney is looking at things like Obama promised: restructuring government and reducing the burden on people and businesses to keep this overbloated government afloat.
August 29, 2012 at 2:21 pm Reply
Much of this debate, and the hard headed clashes between right and left oriented people, suffers from a devastating flaw in reasoning. The assumtion that one must choose to accept or reject either capitalism or socialism. or any other country. It is quite obvious that a third option exists and is more indicative of actual policies of nations that consider themselves or All such countries exercise a balancing act between these socio economic theories. Some have better results that others, but this balancing act is a relatively new experiment that needs TIME, THOUGHT and actual DISCUSSION in order to reach an appropriate equilibrium. The formula for such success is unique to every country particular challenges. That being said, it is evident that talk which advocates for strict adoption of one or the other theories in all areas of socio economic policies, is flawed from the start.
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