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In my GretaWire "Talking Points Memo," I thought I might write about my colleague, Bill O'Reilly. Wednesday night he called me a "pinhead" on the air. I thought it was funny and I have been called worse things by my brother and sister over the years. Over the years I have been called lots of things and posted lots of e mails on this blog with peoples' views of me that are not flattering, but this is the first time I have been called a "pinhead" on the air, around the world, in primetime. You could tell Bill thought it was funny, too. He laughed as he said it. Next time maybe "knucklehead?" I will suggest it to him and, OK, if you want, send me your suggestions I might post them.
Since I have promised behind the scenes including what happens in the lead up to our show Bernie came into the make up room last night and asked if he could take some printer paper from FOX and bring it home to his son. It was too late for him to run to a store and he said it was important. I said, "Sure," but wondered what was up. It turns out that Bernie, in preparing for the show last night and in printing research for the show, used up all his son's printer paper before he walked out the door. As Bernie left for the bureau to do the show, he learned the big problem from his son. His son had gone to the computer and discovered there was no paper and that he had been ambushed by his father. His son then pointed out I assume a bit frantically that his father had not only used up all the printer paper but that he needed paper to print his term paper on the Roman Empire due today. This was an emergency. We all know that and have all been there for those term paper due emergencies. Needless to say we were happy to give Bernie and his son the paper. We don't care. We just want justice, but a woman commits a crime and we try to figure out why they did what they did. Maybe they are just as evil as the men. Women want equality. Well, in my humble opinion they should have it in the justice system too.
Thanks for listening,Albany, NY
This is so disgusting and revolting! Does this mean that every suspected criminal is going to plead innocent by reason of being bipolar? Give me a break! Pleeeeeeeeeez! Was the man that assaulted me 35 years ago bi polar? We hadn't even heard the word then, so is he now thinking to himself, "I did it because I was bipolar? So, I am forgiven?" Give me a break! I now hold the prosecution and the victim's parent/parents most responsible for this injustice to society. After much news coverage of this, I have come to the conclusion that maybe the parent did not want it revealed that it might have been thought of as a notch in the belt buckle of the teen boy by the teen boy. Also, that maybe the parent/parents did not want the publicity, etc., to affect their so called place in life/society. It has been proven by the medical profession that a victim facing his/her attacker is a most effective form of treatment and getting past and over trauma than sweeping it under the carpet. I hope when this victim is of age, and can make decisions for himself, we hear from him the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
That so called woman, who is no woman in my book, needs to be strung up and hung out to dry replica van cleef & arpels bracelet up just like any other sexual assault offender of anyone of any age.
So, here's to you Mrs. Robinson: I think we don't know the full details of the situation to make judgments of any kind. I have no doubt van cleef bracelet fake the sex was consensual and I do not believe the boy suffered any damage except maybe to his ego from his buddies because the media found out. As a parent of two girls, I would have been glad my son was not having sex with 14 year old girls. My grandmother was married at 15, my grandfather was 30. They loved each other very much and had a wonderful life. Girls and boys are wired differently it is a fact. My husband wishes he had her for a teacher when he was that age! Ha ha! Her looks and personality probably did play a part in this, but I disagree that she would have gotten different treatment if she was ugly and fat because if she had not been attractive, there would have been more cause to believe the boy/young man was not a willing participant and could have been physically overpowered. I remember being that age myself and would not have welcomed any advances by older male teachers. It is my opinion that this is not a double standard, it is just human nature for boys to be more curious than girls and have less emotional fallout from casual sex. I am not condoning her behavior by any means I just think the case got way too much attention for something that should have remained a private matter. Double standard? Perhaps. As the mother of a 15 year old son, I have listened to him talking bracelet knock off van cleef about how lucky the kid was who got to have sex with that "hottie teacher." But I have also had to watch him go through the pain and emotional suffering of having been smitten with a teenager drama queen who, on a bi weekly basis, dumps him, and then tells him she'll kill herself if he leaves her, I'm not so sure that having sex with a 20 something adult woman wouldn't be better.
Also, looking back on my own teenage crushes on male teachers, I am relatively certain that I would not have been damaged for life by having sex with one of my teachers. In fact, I dreamed about it often! I think maybe as a society we should come to better terms with our sexuality. I don't think that woman is a pedophile; I don't think 20 something male teachers having sex with female students are necessarily pedophiles. In many cases, the 20 somethings are just immature. Should they be teaching? No, probably not. But I certainly don't think they belong in prison either.
Jacki Gansch
Columbus, OH
I was so happy to see that you were going to report on the LaFave case. I have watched many of the FOX people report on it and it has really, really irked me to no end. First, I have to say that Lafave is a pedophile and needs to be institutionalized because there will be another victim. she has no remorse or conscience. On the double standard outcry: rubbish! Double standards in gender is and has always been a predominate fact in this world. Since the beginning of time women have had to deal with double standards in sexuality, economics, military (they still discriminate), politics and every other area of life. Now, when men see sensationalized cases such as Lafave's case, they cry foul play and double standards. another double standard perhaps? I am ticked about the outcome, but against the double standard theory no. Look, even women have accepted this crap so much that they fall for it. I have heard several times women say to men and men say to men, "I can't believe you let a girl beat you" like it is some sort of tragedy for a woman to be good at something, have the ability to compete with a man like a woman is inferior. Just for the record, I am far from being a feminist and still hold onto my Christian values such as the man being the head of a family (not superior, but you can only have one person steering the car), but I feel no sympathy for this so called, "double standard."
Thanks for your coverage Greta
Oh my gosh, pretty girl goes free! Bipolar maybe, but very aware of her surroundings and just exactly what she did. Unfortunately, there are so many teenager boys who have that "heartthrob" feeling for their beautiful blue eyed, blonde haired teacher and why wouldn't they accept the offer to have a sexual relation if approached? They are human, naive and also their hormones are rapidly racing at that age. They can't say no with the wrong head, if you know what I mean. I am ashamed at the prosecuting attorney for letting this one slip. He will have his plate full of future cases for sure by the example he just set, but he will deserve every hard knock he gets from here on out!
As far as Debra, what goes around comes around and her fiance is a ploy as soon as her probation is over she won't need him anymore, he'll get kicked to the curb and she'll be looking for her next victim. I'm sorry, her sickness isn't being Bipolar, it is her own infatuation with her beauty and her desire to be in control sexually of under aged men.
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Well, for goodness sakes, everyone wants ol' to go to jail. My opinion comes from growing up in the 50s. Things were certainly more moral then and family oriented. I certainly don't remember any woman teacher doing such a thing, but the "boys" were really in love with our math teacher. She was a lady and I highly doubt if she did anything other than enjoy their adorations. However, I had a friend who was intimate with a man teacher. Thank goodness no one knew or dared to arrest him or her. It was their decisions. I think she was 17 years old. She is A OK today.
In my GretaWire "Talking Points Memo," I thought I might write about my colleague, Bill O'Reilly. Wednesday night he called me a "pinhead" on the air. I thought it was funny and I have been called worse things by my brother and sister over the years. Over the years I have been called lots of things and posted lots of e mails on this blog with peoples' views of me that are not flattering, but this is the first time I have been called a "pinhead" on the air, around the world, in primetime. You could tell Bill thought it was funny, too. He laughed as he said it. Next time maybe "knucklehead?" I will suggest it to him and, OK, if you want, send me your suggestions I might post them.
Since I have promised behind the scenes including what happens in the lead up to our show Bernie came into the make up room last night and asked if he could take some printer paper from FOX and bring it home to his son. It was too late for him to run to a store and he said it was important. I said, "Sure," but wondered what was up. It turns out that Bernie, in preparing for the show last night and in printing research for the show, used up all his son's printer paper before he walked out the door. As Bernie left for the bureau to do the show, he learned the big problem from his son. His son had gone to the computer and discovered there was no paper and that he had been ambushed by his father. His son then pointed out I assume a bit frantically that his father had not only used up all the printer paper but that he needed paper to print his term paper on the Roman Empire due today. This was an emergency. We all know that and have all been there for those term paper due emergencies. Needless to say we were happy to give Bernie and his son the paper. We don't care. We just want justice, but a woman commits a crime and we try to figure out why they did what they did. Maybe they are just as evil as the men. Women want equality. Well, in my humble opinion they should have it in the justice system too.
Thanks for listening,Albany, NY
This is so disgusting and revolting! Does this mean that every suspected criminal is going to plead innocent by reason of being bipolar? Give me a break! Pleeeeeeeeeez! Was the man that assaulted me 35 years ago bi polar? We hadn't even heard the word then, so is he now thinking to himself, "I did it because I was bipolar? So, I am forgiven?" Give me a break! I now hold the prosecution and the victim's parent/parents most responsible for this injustice to society. After much news coverage of this, I have come to the conclusion that maybe the parent did not want it revealed that it might have been thought of as a notch in the belt buckle of the teen boy by the teen boy. Also, that maybe the parent/parents did not want the publicity, etc., to affect their so called place in life/society. It has been proven by the medical profession that a victim facing his/her attacker is a most effective form of treatment and getting past and over trauma than sweeping it under the carpet. I hope when this victim is of age, and can make decisions for himself, we hear from him the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
That so called woman, who is no woman in my book, needs to be strung up and hung out to dry replica van cleef & arpels bracelet up just like any other sexual assault offender of anyone of any age.
So, here's to you Mrs. Robinson: I think we don't know the full details of the situation to make judgments of any kind. I have no doubt van cleef bracelet fake the sex was consensual and I do not believe the boy suffered any damage except maybe to his ego from his buddies because the media found out. As a parent of two girls, I would have been glad my son was not having sex with 14 year old girls. My grandmother was married at 15, my grandfather was 30. They loved each other very much and had a wonderful life. Girls and boys are wired differently it is a fact. My husband wishes he had her for a teacher when he was that age! Ha ha! Her looks and personality probably did play a part in this, but I disagree that she would have gotten different treatment if she was ugly and fat because if she had not been attractive, there would have been more cause to believe the boy/young man was not a willing participant and could have been physically overpowered. I remember being that age myself and would not have welcomed any advances by older male teachers. It is my opinion that this is not a double standard, it is just human nature for boys to be more curious than girls and have less emotional fallout from casual sex. I am not condoning her behavior by any means I just think the case got way too much attention for something that should have remained a private matter. Double standard? Perhaps. As the mother of a 15 year old son, I have listened to him talking bracelet knock off van cleef about how lucky the kid was who got to have sex with that "hottie teacher." But I have also had to watch him go through the pain and emotional suffering of having been smitten with a teenager drama queen who, on a bi weekly basis, dumps him, and then tells him she'll kill herself if he leaves her, I'm not so sure that having sex with a 20 something adult woman wouldn't be better.
Also, looking back on my own teenage crushes on male teachers, I am relatively certain that I would not have been damaged for life by having sex with one of my teachers. In fact, I dreamed about it often! I think maybe as a society we should come to better terms with our sexuality. I don't think that woman is a pedophile; I don't think 20 something male teachers having sex with female students are necessarily pedophiles. In many cases, the 20 somethings are just immature. Should they be teaching? No, probably not. But I certainly don't think they belong in prison either.
Jacki Gansch
Columbus, OH
I was so happy to see that you were going to report on the LaFave case. I have watched many of the FOX people report on it and it has really, really irked me to no end. First, I have to say that Lafave is a pedophile and needs to be institutionalized because there will be another victim. she has no remorse or conscience. On the double standard outcry: rubbish! Double standards in gender is and has always been a predominate fact in this world. Since the beginning of time women have had to deal with double standards in sexuality, economics, military (they still discriminate), politics and every other area of life. Now, when men see sensationalized cases such as Lafave's case, they cry foul play and double standards. another double standard perhaps? I am ticked about the outcome, but against the double standard theory no. Look, even women have accepted this crap so much that they fall for it. I have heard several times women say to men and men say to men, "I can't believe you let a girl beat you" like it is some sort of tragedy for a woman to be good at something, have the ability to compete with a man like a woman is inferior. Just for the record, I am far from being a feminist and still hold onto my Christian values such as the man being the head of a family (not superior, but you can only have one person steering the car), but I feel no sympathy for this so called, "double standard."
Thanks for your coverage Greta
Oh my gosh, pretty girl goes free! Bipolar maybe, but very aware of her surroundings and just exactly what she did. Unfortunately, there are so many teenager boys who have that "heartthrob" feeling for their beautiful blue eyed, blonde haired teacher and why wouldn't they accept the offer to have a sexual relation if approached? They are human, naive and also their hormones are rapidly racing at that age. They can't say no with the wrong head, if you know what I mean. I am ashamed at the prosecuting attorney for letting this one slip. He will have his plate full of future cases for sure by the example he just set, but he will deserve every hard knock he gets from here on out!
As far as Debra, what goes around comes around and her fiance is a ploy as soon as her probation is over she won't need him anymore, he'll get kicked to the curb and she'll be looking for her next victim. I'm sorry, her sickness isn't being Bipolar, it is her own infatuation with her beauty and her desire to be in control sexually of under aged men.
Hi
Well, for goodness sakes, everyone wants ol' to go to jail. My opinion comes from growing up in the 50s. Things were certainly more moral then and family oriented. I certainly don't remember any woman teacher doing such a thing, but the "boys" were really in love with our math teacher. She was a lady and I highly doubt if she did anything other than enjoy their adorations. However, I had a friend who was intimate with a man teacher. Thank goodness no one knew or dared to arrest him or her. It was their decisions. I think she was 17 years old. She is A OK today.
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